Firefox 3: Preview of the User Interface

So in other words, it's going to add features that have existed in Safari (Smart Folders, for example) for a while, or it's going to just make features FF2 has, prettier.

I think that was drhamad's point. Basically, if a good idea exists, developers should say "Aw, shucks" and then commence ignoring it.

It's good to highlight Safari (or other's) innovations, but I'm not sure that deriding Firefox's incorporation of it makes sense.

Finally, pr0n browsing mode!

I like the addition of "pr0n mode", because let's face it, what the hell else do you need privacy for…

My guess would be that most current Firefox users who are into organizing their bookmarks already use delicious. So I agree with the person who said it should integrate with delicious. Or atleast import delicious.

So in "private browsing" mode i will not receive any cookie ?

m1t0s1s: 'Places' is the name for the database that will store bookmarks (among other things) in FF3.

"I use Firefox and I'm meticulous with the way I organize my bookmarks and I don't use delicious."

How the hell do you cope currently?
FF2 has a shit bookmark manager, looks utterly shameful next to the one Safari has had since 1.0

I agree with FF-user; I use Firefox and organise my bookmarks but do not use "del.icio.us" (I just can't bring myself to put my bookmarks in the hands of a service with such an annoying name). Being able to synchronise via simple FTP would be really nice.

Any information on whether they are going to reduce the size of Firefox to combat the "bloatware" effect?

@FF-user -agreed-
I want to sort MY about 2300 bookmarks, ALONE.
Its kind of funny going over them from time to time.
So equaly how they call themselves delisous,mrwong,..
as long as there are commercial interests in the background they won't get their fingers onto MY bookmarks. Sozial bookmarking means to me without having the one with the one and only right to make sth out of the database of all the collected bookmarks.

If the mozilla crew would give me in my firefox the possibility to chose what bookmark goes to one person to the public(perhaps mozilla users or other open db, kind of group defined by myself) or i keep for myself then i would make an attempt with sozial bookmarking, but not if the bookmarks are in the hand of one firm where i have no insight what da hell there doing with MY bookmarks.

FF2 was a marketting exercise, hardly any real improvements in rendering engine.
Just a step to try and one up IE7(not an ie fan), and the interface enhancements were poor. Its a 1.7 release at best.

I think drhamad's larger point is that Firefox should innovate and develop something new and creative, not JUST copy other browsers. Of course, he didn't have any specific ideas.

I think his point is valid, but that doesn't take away from the value of copying good ideas. I think it's great that Firefox is going for a nicer look, using the Cairo layer. The UI controls look kinda clunky on 2.x.

Anyway, I applaud the Firefox team for being hot on improving the product, including by copying other good ideas. Everyone does it, they should too.

Hmm…nothing here that gets me super-excited. The one feature I really want to see, never seems to get other people excited (and some upset): zooming of text and images.

Opera has it, IE 7 has it—if Firefox would get it, Web designers would finally not have to worry about their designs falling apart when the text is scaled. Similarly, people with poor vision wouldn't scale up text just to see the characters get bigger, but lines get shorter (because the designer had to use a pixel width to keep the design from breaking alignment with an image).

My list of feature requests for the modern high-bandwith internet browsers:

1.- Implement an "open format" multimedia (audio&video) support. Cross-browser & cross-platform.

2.- Implement a "P2P" super HTTP implementation. The client-server architecture is a bit outdated in the era of BitTorrent and Zattoo.

3.- Improve SVG support. We need a "Flash" without "Flash".

Meanwhile any new browser feature is just an "small feature". I thing the best of FF3 is the use of the Cairo library. It will allow for great things in a near future.

As a Safari user, I love that Safari 3 stole Firefoxes' "Find" feature. Nothin wrong with stealing a good idea and it goes both ways. At least we can all agree that IE is useless.

Good to see firefox getting better, its a good browser for linux but i myself prefer safari for Windows and Mac though i do keep firefox on they machines as well just incase something doesn't work on safari. Personally i don't use firefox as my main browser because i prefer the spell check and smoother fonts on safari.
Always good to see firefox improve though, the better it gets the better ie 8 will be and the better safari will be i love competition. Competition now means i need to write less and less sites with a special ie 6 only version because it messes up the layout. More firefox and safari users the better i say.

hhhh, safari? safari's tab browsing isn't even 10% as good as firefox's, has 10% of firefox's features, work with 90% of firefox compatible websites, has 5% of customizability of firefox. Apple is educating their users to be arrogant and stupid. and they apparently succeeded.

I would really Love safari to learn something from others, rather than stick with its stinging behavior.

Tony, you'll be happy to find out that Firefox 3 will have full page zoom. In fact the alphas already have it if you want to try it out.

Also, Shamar, they're adding Ogg Theora and Vorbis for native video and sound. It doesn't look like it will be done in time to make Firefox 3.0, however.

to all those complaining firefox is stealing "porn mode" from safari, have you not heard of the distrust extension? it does exactly this, has for awhile now.
and get over idea borrowing. computers would simply not exist if companies didn't do this.
simple example: scroll bars. you expect windows, mac and linux to come up with their own method of scrolling? hell no, scroll bars do the job, they do it well so they all use them.
whiny bitc*es.

Adam says: "whiny bitc*es."

Hell yeah, this is the place for whiny bitc*es! It's a whiny bitc* zoo!

I'm getting seriously sick of firefox memory leak problems.

@adam: Opera rulezz!

I'm surprised that "FF-user" above would make the insane comment that Firefox developers should "[be]spending time developing other features" rather than fix bookmark handling.

WFT?!!!! uh….WTF??!?!?!!!

In my mind — and I'm not alone — Firefox bookmark handling is atrocious and should be the VERY TOPLINE FIRST thing that gets redeveloped. As it is, I'm walking away from using FF until it's fixed.