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Blackhorus Says, in 11-16-2007 at 12:05:59 from 76.68.229.124    

Even Pink Floyd is worth hearing….Without the mix :)

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Peter Says, in 11-17-2007 at 20:26:46 from 24.35.40.35    

Thisis a great song, but the reasons they sync up is because they are in the same tempo and key.

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Nikola Says, in 11-19-2007 at 05:07:06 from 77.105.40.92    

when someone is good , he is good no matter what you do with his song. Pink floyd is legendary group so no further explanation is needed.

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phil Says, in 11-28-2007 at 12:10:40 from 91.19.222.100    

sounds great !

but this happens commonly cause peter is right

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monkey Says, in 12-1-2007 at 12:03:49 from 24.83.3.53    

It goes beyond simply being the same key and the same tempo, there's quite literally millions of examples where this manner of duplication would NOT work. It works in this case because its a well thought out solo with a very specific melodic theme from start to finish, a trademark of Gilmour's. ;-)

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Michael Says, in 12-3-2007 at 15:34:04 from 152.131.10.194    

Monkey, you are exactly correct. It is without a doubt one of the best laid out guitar solos. The melody of Gilmore's solo lends itself very well to contrapuntal explorations and rhythmic manipulations. The key of B minor/ D major is of little consequence.

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Matthew Says, in 12-4-2007 at 11:42:56 from 81.101.114.177    

No-one here has heard of a fugue then?

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Michael Says, in 12-4-2007 at 14:21:41 from 152.131.10.194    

Matthew,
A fugue takes on much more intricacies of melodic embellishment i.e. stretto, inversion, compression, etc. This is more like a round so it is pretty arrogant to assume that no one knows what a fugue is. This just proved a point that you don't know fugal techniques so be careful on throwing out 18th century musical lingo.

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Charlie Says, in 12-4-2007 at 14:25:09 from 71.98.65.226    

Yes Matthew, apparently everyone assumes guitarists can't use classical techniques in modern music. As kids you're taught songs that are called "rounds" that are based on this same principle, has everyone forgotten that?

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Gino Says, in 12-7-2007 at 11:17:58 from 12.2.121.200    

Brian May does this with almost every solo with a digital delay. AND he uses a quarter for a pick.

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matt Says, in 12-8-2007 at 14:43:12 from 216.87.207.1    

it's not a well thought out solo, gilmour in the studio would record many many many solos for one song, then edit them so the best parts of each solo make for one good solo

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ryan Says, in 12-9-2007 at 15:29:18 from 67.8.143.43    

matt,

wouldn't that be something that is "well though out" then? whether he spliced it together on an editing station or inside his head, it is still the creative process at work

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Dick Says, in 12-13-2007 at 20:07:43 from 128.255.202.107    

Matt,

Did David Gilmour steal your girlfriend?

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cog Says, in 12-21-2007 at 21:39:03 from 67.72.98.116    

im with Matt..that's what he did on most solos. record 10 or 20 takes and then break each part into meters and use the best of. and as a guitarist who's done the same the thing, it takes a HELLUVA lot more work (but sounds better to me) to actually work the whole thing out, note for note from start to finish

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Ronald Says, in 12-26-2007 at 02:42:22 from 76.19.87.6    

It would have been arrogant if he said "I'm right because I know what a fugue is, and your wrong because you have no taste in music." The question he asked wasn't arrogant. You are being defensive for some odd reason is all.

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HP Says, in 1-1-2008 at 21:04:23 from 62.163.14.153    

I do not want to add to this non-discussion, but even if gilmour created this studioversion solo in 500 takes, I still prefer the live version. And whatever he did to come up with the structure of this solo, listening to the live version still gives me chills. I'm tempted to say that's all that matters. This MP3 did not add to the experience, even though I'm not surprised it fits. For a short moment I was afraid you counted 666 notes or something :)

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Azmo Says, in 1-10-2008 at 09:06:35 from 121.45.204.183    

I'm glad we're all caught up in technicalities, and epeen showing to determine who knows more about music, rather than sitting back and listening to that splendid piece of music and enjoying it.

And I'm with HP, go listen to the live version. Perfection in a studio is fine and well, perfection life is sublime.

Lol, my verification code is FYKU = D

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Jimbo... Says, in 1-10-2008 at 19:17:56 from 75.65.151.107    

What he said…
I think David heard his studio version enough times, like the rest of us, to play it that way live, since we all know "that's the way it goes"…

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Travis Says, in 2-12-2008 at 05:22:44 from 24.11.115.242    

My take on this…

"The guitar solo of this song is so perfect that even if you play two copies 15 seconds apart they sync up and compliment each other creating something worth hearing."

Compliment? Yes. Sync up? No. Not at all. For them to sync up, I should hear distinguishable parallel or chordal harmonies, or perhaps counterpoint between the two phrases. Instead, it sounds like two guys haphazardly jamming at once.

One thing that seems to give the illusion of intentionality is the phenomenon where one line goes up high when the other line goes low, creating moments of pseudo-harmony and minimizing dissonant clashes. But this phenomenon is not due to some planning on the part of Gilmour, but rather due to the natural ebb and flow of a well constructed solo.

A good soloist is not going to stay in the same register for too long. Instead, they will play a section in one neck position, and then move up or down to intensify or de-intensify the feel and emotion of the passage.

Gilmour does this like a champ, which is why it is a truly great solo, but still purely intuitive and unplanned in nature.

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